when you have this raymond davis t e the, he worked for black environment, the perfect environment for the conspiracies that a former military officer, former black water employee now working for the cia caught having killed two people on the streets of lahore, and black water, davis, i attended a rally and he was trying to answer something that happened the night before where a number of pakistani troops were killed, and the suspicion was it was his people who killed the pakistani troops and rallied the crowd by saying, it was not me. it was black water, another raymond davis, and the crowd went crazy, those are the terms that focused people's minds in pakistan. >> jay in louisville, kentucky, jay, you're on booktv. >> caller: yes, my belief is that after september 11th, well, india was the first to offer help and collaboration before israel and the united kingdom. it's my belief the only reason pakistan's been help is their fear the u.s. would get closer to india. that's all i have. >> guest: well, it's very interesting -- a very interesting question. india, as you say, was -- jumped